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  1. #1
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    Default Runaway 2 and DDraw

    Hello,
    Using Linux, I tried the demo version under wine. It fails with an error, but I managed, with a quite ugly hack, to get it working.
    But after some discussions with wine developpers, it seems Runaway 2 won't work on VMWare, Qemu, Wine ( unmodified ), some video cards, and probably Windows Vista !
    Why ? Because you use a strange pixelformat ( 5 red bits, 6 bits of nothing, 5 green bits ).
    Can you fix it, with, for instance, R5G6B5 ? If not, some explanations ?

    Thanks

    PS : I also want to play the full game under wine, but the copy-controll system may don't work

  2. #2

    Default Re: Runaway 2 and DDraw

    I'm afraid to say that I'm not familiar with Linux and Wine so I can't help you on this matter. However, Runaway 2 will work on Windows Vista. I'll pass your information about Linux and Wine to the technical people here.

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    Default Re: Runaway 2 and DDraw

    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulo Studios
    I'm afraid to say that I'm not familiar with Linux and Wine so I can't help you on this matter. However, Runaway 2 will work on Windows Vista. I'll pass your information about Linux and Wine to the technical people here.
    In fact, Runaway 2 isn't compatible with DirectX, but many video cards can handle "custom" pixelformats. But some ( SiS cards, for instance ? ) can't. Emulator's video cards can't handle them too... So, non-windows users, and some windows users can't play runaway 2.

  4. #4

    Default Re: Runaway 2 and DDraw

    Well, I have to say that Runaway 2 is compatible with DirectX. In fact, it needs DirectX to work properly.

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    Default Re: Runaway 2 and DDraw

    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulo Studios
    Well, I have to say that Runaway 2 is compatible with DirectX. In fact, it needs DirectX to work properly.
    I mean... It don't respect DirectX specifications about Pixelformats...

  6. #6

    Default Re: Runaway 2 and DDraw

    Quote Originally Posted by Thib
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulo Studios
    Well, I have to say that Runaway 2 is compatible with DirectX. In fact, it needs DirectX to work properly.
    I mean... It don't respect DirectX specifications about Pixelformats...
    That's too way beyond my understanding, sorry, I'm not a tech guy. However, I'll keep staying that is DirectX compatible; if not, it would not work properly.

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    Default Re: Runaway 2 and DDraw

    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulo Studios
    Quote Originally Posted by Thib
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulo Studios
    Well, I have to say that Runaway 2 is compatible with DirectX. In fact, it needs DirectX to work properly.
    I mean... It don't respect DirectX specifications about Pixelformats...
    That's too way beyond my understanding, sorry, I'm not a tech guy. However, I'll keep staying that is DirectX compatible; if not, it would not work properly.
    It don't work properly with only the software part of DirectX. Anyway, many video cards can handle it.
    Please check if it's related to SiS onboard cards issue.

  8. #8

    Default Re: Runaway 2 and DDraw

    Thib, all I can say is that those SIS cards ring a bell and I'm sure the people is working on something regarding that issue. However, don't ask me for details as I don't have them.

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    Default Re: Runaway 2 and DDraw

    I'm currently writing a fonction to convert pixelformats to others, in Wine. So, Wine will soon handle your strange pixelformat.

    But I think you're wrong with this pixelformat : You should use only "standard" pixelformats, because DirectX don't handle "custom" ones, but many video card's driver can. I think it is highly related to the SiS issue.

    PS : And about the copy-controll protection ? A way to play under linux ?

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    Default Re: Runaway 2 and DDraw

    Hello,

    I'm just wondering when RunAway will be "Vista Ready"? I'm currently running Vista RC2 (I'm waiting the RTM Version) but RunAway2 doesn't want to work :/ (Unable to initialize DirectX) and I know someone with almost the same problem (but with vista RTM)...

    I copy/paste some info from dxdiag if they can help to find a solution ...

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    System Information
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    Time of this report: 11/29/2006, 22:16:02
    Machine name: TORTANK
    Operating System: Windows Vista Ultimate (6.0, Build 5744) (5744.vista_rtm_edw.061003-1945)
    Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
    System Manufacturer: Acer, inc.
    System Model: Aspire 1690
    BIOS: Phoenix NoteBIOS 4.0 Release 6.1
    Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz, ~1.7GHz
    Memory: 1022MB RAM
    Page File: 869MB used, 1427MB available
    Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 10
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    DxDiag Version: 6.00.5744.16384 32bit Unicode

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    DxDiag Notes
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    Display Tab 1: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
    Input Tab: No problems found.

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    DirectX Debug Levels
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    Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
    DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
    DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
    DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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    Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
    Chip type: ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700 (0x5653)
    DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
    Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5653&SUBSYS_00661025&REV_00
    Display Memory: 382 MB
    Dedicated Memory: 126 MB
    Shared Memory: 255 MB
    Current Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (60Hz)
    Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
    Driver Name: atiumdag.dll,atiumdva.dat,atitmmxx.dll
    Driver Version: 7.14.0010.0449 (English)
    DDI Version: 9Ex
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    Driver Date/Size: 10/25/2006 02:40:18, 2493952 bytes
    WHQL Logo'd: n/a
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    Revision ID: 0x0000
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    Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_266E&SUBSYS_00661025&REV_04
    Manufacturer ID: 1
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    Type: WDM
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    Driver Version: 6.13.0010.8335 (English)
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    Date and Size: 6/25/2004 14:29:58, 34048 bytes
    Other Files:
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    HW Accel Level: Basic
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    Description: Microphone (Conexant AC-Link Audio)
    Default Sound Capture: Yes
    Default Voice Capture: Yes
    Driver Name: camcaud.sys
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    System Devices
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    Name: ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5653&SUBSYS_00661025&REV_00\4&127 113F0&0&0008
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atikmdag.sys, 7.01.0001.0537 (English), 10/25/2006 02:53:06, 2068992 bytes
    Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ativcaxx.cpa, 10/1/2006 01:20:17, 328162 bytes
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  11. #11
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    Default Re: Runaway 2 and DDraw

    Quote Originally Posted by Toms
    Hello,

    I'm just wondering when RunAway will be "Vista Ready"? I'm currently running Vista RC2 (I'm waiting the RTM Version) but RunAway2 doesn't want to work :/ (Unable to initialize DirectX) and I know someone with almost the same problem (but with vista RTM)...
    I guess it's because of the invalid pixelformat... If only a programmer for PENDULO would read this topic...

  12. #12
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    Default Re: Runaway 2 and DDraw

    Or a real way to contact them... (Mail ?)

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