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Apla_v0ulone
22-02-2012, 11:43 PM
Accused Battle.Net account: Apla_V0ulone
Your Battle.Net account: Alonso_
Game Name: AP14948
Offence of Admin: Αναίτια !mute, !mute σε admin, άγνοια των rules, απειλές κτλ
Time of event: 27:51, 30:06, 31:04, 31:28
Further details:

Λοιπόν έχουμε και λέμε:

Στο 27:51 κάνει rage mute στον user C.Ronaldo.7. Το chat που προηγήθηκε:
26:59 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7 (Balanar): tragikos
27:03 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7 (Balanar): pragmatika
27:11 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): ase re maga pou eimai tragikos
27:19 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): oti goustao eimai
27:25 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7 (Balanar): tragikos
27:32 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7 (Balanar): kala den einai kako
27:34 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): se rotise kanis
27:38 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): araxte
27:39 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7 (Balanar): den mathame oloi apo ti proti mera
27:43 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7 (Balanar): den to lew apo kakia
27:51 [All] DA-SHEPHERD (Enchantress): Player [C.Ronaldo.7] was muted by player [Apla_V0ulone].
27:51 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): !mute c.rona
28:01 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): tha exeis gia to ipolipo tou game (LOL'D)
28:07 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): opios to vgali pos


Στο 30:06 του κάνει perma mute χωρίς να έχει πει τίποτα (α soz είπε -clear):
29:55 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7 (Balanar): -clear
30:06 [All] DA-SHEPHERD (Enchantress): Player [C.Ronaldo.7] was muted by player [Apla_V0ulone].
30:06 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): !mute c.ro


Στο 31:04 άκυρο τελείως mute στον user Mad. Το chat που προηγήθηκε:
30:21 [Allies] Mad: Ti kaneis re malaka ?
30:22 [Allies] Mad: giati ton kaneis
30:23 [Allies] Mad: mute ?
30:29 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): vgale to mute re 10xrono na sinenooumaste
30:30 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): niwsto
30:40 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): oxi
30:41 [Allies] Mad: Alonsi
30:43 [Allies] Mad: vgakti
30:44 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): ta leme forum
30:45 [Allies] Mad: vgalto
30:45 [Allies] Mad: esy
30:46 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): opios einai sostos
30:51 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): den troi mute
30:55 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): opios vrizi
30:55 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): ta leme forum leww
30:55 [Allies] Mad: ante re lvima
30:56 [Allies] Mad: vlima
30:57 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): troi
31:01 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): legi
31:04 [All] DA-SHEPHERD (Enchantress): Player [Mad] was muted by player [Apla_V0ulone].
31:04 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): !mute mad


Στο 31:13 αποτυχήμένη προσπάθεια να με κάνει mute, και στο 31:28 mission accomplished! Το chat:
31:04 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): mn asxolise man
31:06 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): 10xrono einai
31:07 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): vgalto
31:13 [All] DA-SHEPHERD (Enchantress): Unable to mute/unmute player [allo]. No matches found.
31:13 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): !mute allo
31:15 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): Des ti kanei
31:24 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): mn asxoliste
31:28 [All] DA-SHEPHERD (Enchantress): Player [Alonso_] was muted by player [Apla_V0ulone].
31:28 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): !mute alo
[Eleos]: [Alonso_] is an admin!


Στο 31:32 κάνω unmute και μου λέει για post κτλ. Πλήρη άγνοια των rules. Το chat:
31:32 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): !unmute alo
31:32 [All] DA-SHEPHERD (Enchantress): Player [Alonso_] was unmuted by player [Alonso_].
31:33 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): alou auta
31:42 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): exeis post meta
31:53 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): kai tha doume pou einai afta?


Στο 33:16 πάλι άγνοια των rules σχετικά με τα mute σε admin. Το chat:
32:05 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): ela trava Diavase rules paiDaki
32:16 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): ego tous xero
32:28 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): esi den tous xeri
32:44 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): mute DN mporeis na me kaneis
32:47 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): tha to doume forum
32:49 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): An me kaneis mporw na to vgalw
32:49 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): afto
32:53 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): trava Diavase
32:55 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): pitsirika
32:58 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): kai tha doume pios einai sostos
33:10 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): oxi otan vrizis
33:15 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): s vrisa?
33:16 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): den mporis na to vgalis
33:18 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): 10xrono/
33:19 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): e?
33:20 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): n
33:21 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): s vrisa?
33:23 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): nai
33:25 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): einai
33:28 [Allies] Alonso_ (Morphling): ela sks
33:28 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone (Bloodseeker): gia emena


Αν είναι να τρώμε/ρίχνουμε !mute για φράσεις όπως τραγικέ/παιδάκι/10χρονο την χάσαμε την μπάλα...
Το replay:28518


as arxisoume me ta anepalila vrisimata pou dextika apo olou sas kai tha ta exigiso ena ena xexorista!

1o spoiler: grafi pano apo dio fores arnitiko sxolio gia emena kai sinexizi na spamari aneleita epomenos to mute einai sosto vasi kanonon!

2o-3o spoiler:siga den eipe kai kai tpt to paidi mono ena -clear spam pou to idate?
29:01 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7: tragikos
29:04 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7: pragmatika
29:09 [Game Command] exCUse.Mee: -cs
29:09 [Allies] Mad: !sd apl
29:12 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: ase re maga pou eimai tragikos
29:19 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7: !sd apla_v0
29:21 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: oti goustao eimai
29:26 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7: tragikos
29:33 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7: kala den einai kako
29:36 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: se rotise kanis
29:39 [Allies] Alonso_: araxte
29:41 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7: den mathame oloi apo ti proti mera
29:42 [Allies] Mad: po
29:44 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7: den to lew apo kakia
29:52 [All] DA-SHEPHERD: Player [C.Ronaldo.7] was muted by player [Apla_V0ulone].
29:52 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: !mute c.rona

kai edo opos to vlepeis xekathara tou to vgazo apla opos eipa kai sto game den mporis na spamari sinexia giaffto emine 6 lepta mono se mute (36:15 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: !unmute c.ro)

afou les pos exei perma mute edo pos mas milaei?
38:09 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7: gt
38:10 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7: gia ena atomo
38:16 Proffesional. was killed by Alonso_.
38:17 [All] DA-SHEPHERD: Pause requested by [C.Ronaldo.7]. Pausing game...
38:17 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7: !p
38:19 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7: miso
38:20 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7: pause
38:21 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7: dwse akoma ena
38:22 [Allies] C.Ronaldo.7: gioro

4o-5o-6o spoiler: kaki xaraktirismi kai apo tous dio pros to atomo mou, anafores peri tis ilikias mou, malaka,vlima...spamare kamia dekaria fores tin lexi 10xrono +tin lexi paidaki evgale to mute giati ego den mporo aftos einai magas kai mpori na spamary aneleita siga ti egine...

32:56 [Allies] Alonso_: ta leme forum leww
32:56 [Allies] Mad: ante re lvima
32:58 [Allies] Mad: vlima
32:58 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: troi
33:02 [Allies] Alonso_: legi
33:05 [All] DA-SHEPHERD: Player [Mad] was muted by player [Apla_V0ulone].
33:05 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: !mute mad
33:05 [Allies] Alonso_: mn asxolise man
33:07 [Allies] Alonso_: 10xrono einai
33:09 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: vgalto
33:15 [All] DA-SHEPHERD: Unable to mute/unmute player [allo]. No matches found.
33:15 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: !mute allo
33:17 [Allies] Alonso_: Des ti kanei
33:18 [All] urDeathComing: tis poutanas e ?
33:25 [Allies] Alonso_: mn asxoliste
33:29 [All] DA-SHEPHERD: Player [Alonso_] was muted by player [Apla_V0ulone].
33:29 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: !mute alo
33:33 [Allies] Alonso_: !unmute alo
33:34 [All] hfghgh: fae 1 lvl
33:34 [All] DA-SHEPHERD: Player [Alonso_] was unmuted by player [Alonso_].
33:35 [Allies] Alonso_: alou auta
33:35 [All] hfghgh: warn
33:44 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: exeis post meta
33:47 [All] Alonso_: ti 1 mlk mazepse 2 mexri twra
33:53 [All] hfghgh: xxaxxa
33:55 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: kai tha doume pou einai afta?
33:57 [All] hfghgh: demoted
34:01 [All] urDeathComing: gt re
34:03 [All] urDeathComing: epeidi kanei mute ?
34:06 [Allies] Alonso_: ela trava Diavase rules paiDaki
34:07 [All] urDeathComing: a kanei mute admin ?
34:18 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: ego tous xero
34:20 [All] Alonso_: ta panta Dike mou o aDmin trela8ike!
34:26 Apla_V0ulone was killed by urDeathComing.
34:27 [All] hfghgh: farmaka
34:29 [Allies] Magiko_Xaali: ela
34:29 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: esi den tous xeri
34:32 [Allies] Magiko_Xaali: ade pethane
34:45 [Allies] Alonso_: mute DN mporeis na me kaneis
34:49 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: tha to doume forum
34:51 [Allies] Alonso_: An me kaneis mporw na to vgalw
34:51 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: afto
34:54 [Allies] Alonso_: trava Diavase
34:57 [Allies] Alonso_: pitsirika
34:59 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: kai tha doume pios einai sostos
35:05 [All] DA-SHEPHERD: Player [Mad] automatically unmuted after 2 minutes.
35:05 Sentinel top level 2 tower was destroyed by TheFarMeR).
35:11 Mad was killed by Proffesional..
35:12 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: oxi otan vrizis
35:16 [Allies] Alonso_: s vrisa?
35:17 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: den mporis na to vgalis
35:19 [Allies] Magiko_Xaali: re
35:20 [Allies] Alonso_: 10xrono/
35:21 [Allies] Magiko_Xaali: ksekolate
35:21 [Allies] Alonso_: e?
35:21 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: n
35:22 [Allies] Magiko_Xaali: ade
35:23 [Allies] Alonso_: s vrisa?
35:24 [All] DA-SHEPHERD: urDeathComing has lost the connection (timed out).
35:24 urDeathComing has left the game.
35:24 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: nai
35:27 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: einai
35:30 [Allies] Alonso_: ela sks
35:30 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: gia emena
35:31 [Allies] Mad: paw afk
35:40 [Allies] Magiko_Xaali: re
35:41 [Allies] Alonso_: legi paikse re man
35:42 [Allies] Mad: Tzampa paizoume
35:42 [Allies] Magiko_Xaali: eiste kala?
35:44 [Allies] Mad: me ton mogkolo
35:47 [Allies] Alonso_: mn se gamaei to game to paiDaki
35:48 [Allies] Alonso_: paikse
36:02 [Allies] Magiko_Xaali: aston re
36:07 [Allies] Magiko_Xaali: mhn vlepeis ti leei aston
36:15 [Allies] Alonso_: pata -hhn
36:15 [All] DA-SHEPHERD: Player [C.Ronaldo.7] was unmuted by player [Apla_V0ulone].
36:15 [Allies] Apla_V0ulone: !unmute c.ro


signomi pou piga na fero mia taxi sto game theoro pos to spam timorite me mute an kano lathos pou den nomizo pistevo prepei na dikeothi to paidi afou nomizi pos epidi einai admin mpori na vrizi na spamari na leei oti theli se ena game kai apla na vgazi to mute...akoma tha ithela na kitaxete i staff to replay gia to anepala gameruin katholi tin diarkia tou game poli xaraktiristika einai afta pou exo kani ulty ston butcher den exei gini oute ena hit apo kanena kai ton kinigao me ena hit eno tou exo katevasi olo to life kai xafnika kanoun last spell-hit 43:33 kai pola alla sta alla pedia pou profanos ekane kai den eixa dei logo pou imoun se alla simia...tha anafertho mono sta dika mou pou einai 29:40 kedavros kai ego (seeker) 39:34 perimeni gia last hit eno einai poli ora diplatou kai kano mono ego hit kai me xtipaei ena tw pou mpori kai na pethena kai telos 43:33 profanes last hit! telos tha ithela na elekti o butcher kata tin gnomi mou euxe mh!

euxaristo para poli gia to demote..den dextika defteri efkeria giati den egina pote demote oute exo dosi pote dikeoma apla gia kapio kero eprepe na lipso sto exoteriko kai paragrafika logo anenergou melous!telos tha mporousate na afsete 5 lepta akoma to post anixto oste na apologitho afou katigoroume!

tha paratirisete pos kai i idioiparadexonte pos kanane spam kai tora zitan signomi epomenos to mute eixe logiki exigisi! http://www.mymgn.com/board/showthread.php?t=120492

teh_
23-02-2012, 12:20 AM
Διάβασα ότι είπες από αρχή μέχρι τέλους, αλλά η γνώμη μου πάνω στο θέμα αυτό δεν άλλαξε. Δεν θα κάτσω να αναλύσω εδώ μία προς μία τις επίμαχες στιγμές του replay, αλλά θα αναφέρω μερικά κομβικά σημεία.

Μέχρι το πρώτο mute δεν είχε προγηθεί τίποτα στο chat. Μόνο όταν σε έκρινε ο Alonso_ για το gameplay σου προχώρησες σε mute, το οποίο ήταν λάθος για 2 λόγους. Πρώτον γιατί είναι admin και δεύτερον γιατί αυτά που σου είπε δεν ήταν αξιόποινα σε καμία περίπτωση. Από εκεί και μετά το κλίμα χάλασε λόγω της δική σου λανθασμένης ενέργειας και της στάσης που κράτησες ύστερα.

Όπως σου είπα και στο αρχικό abuse εσύ δεν φρόντισες να αξιοποιήσεις την ευκαιρία που σου δώθηκε.

sabotaz80
23-02-2012, 08:02 AM
Όπως είπε και ο Emman εδώ (http://www.mymgn.com/board/showthread.php?t=89343), χρησιμοποιείς τα commands που σου έχουν δωθεί αναίτια. Προχωράς σε mute ή/και ban για το παραμικρό. Το ίδιο φαινόμενο το βλέπουμε και εδώ (http://www.mymgn.com/board/showthread.php?t=84510).
Έχοντας ως βάση λοιπόν αυτό Σε περίπτωση, όμως, που ο admin διαπράξει το ίδιο παράπτωμα με εκείνο που είχε διαπράξει στο παραγραφόμενο abuse θα έχει μια αυστηρότερη αντιμετώπιση από την κανονική καθώς το αδίκημα του θα θεωρείται "κατ' εξακολούθησιν. αλλά και τις απειλές που εκτόξευσες για perma mute, για report στο forum όπως και το mute σε admin η ποινή δεν μπορεί να αλλάξει.

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