DPCM480

[Ph0eNiiX]

[00:36] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> plz
[00:36] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> no more host bot
[00:36] <+smilE-_-GJR> :]]]
[00:36] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> so much spikes

[00:37] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> usually it works good
[00:38] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> but tonight

[00:38] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> i got a lot
[00:38] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> of spikez
[00:38] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> not only me
[00:38] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> all french

[00:46] * @P2-BOT Team Sentinel: Flow|Souljah^RU, walda-, PI|ZexTar^, Flow|Gorgrim^RU, Morbix
[00:46] * @P2-BOT Team Scourge: GoJiRa, Ph0eNiiX, DIVApo, DIVGOBLIN, DIV|Popo

We said that we (french players) got spikes on the hostbot. We tried to play on it but it wasn't playable for us. As you can see, i said that before the game.
I said it several times in game, then i left to try another host.
But PI|Zextar doesn't even want to try another host. We tried to talk with him, but with is admin rights he closed the game, result sentinel.

[01:12] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> go other host
[01:12] <@PI|ZexTar> just .result sentinel

[01:12] <+CF]SoulJah-> we played on the bot the other game
[01:12] <+CF]SoulJah-> had 2 spikes
[01:13] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> we got spikes all the game last game

[01:13] <@PI|ZexTar> Wont go
[01:14] <+DIV|Popo> why?N
[01:14] <@PI|ZexTar> just result sentinel
[01:14] <@PI|ZexTar> cause you jsut left
[01:14] <+DIV|Popo> what s wrong with u?

[01:14] <+smilE^apo_o> we are waiting for you
[01:14] <+smilE^apo_o> on popo host

[01:14] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> we all five have spikes
[01:14] <@PI|ZexTar> go without me hten
[01:14] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> You wana play against ppl who cant play ?

[01:14] <+CF]SoulJah-> phoenix
[01:14] <+CF]SoulJah-> u didnt have lags
[01:14] <+CF]SoulJah-> the other game?
[01:14] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> i did

[01:15] <@PI|ZexTar> i
[01:15] <@PI|ZexTar> j ust
[01:15] <@PI|ZexTar> result
[01:15] <@PI|ZexTar> sentinel
[01:15] <@PI|ZexTar> since u left the game

So what Zextar reproching me is to leave this game without discussing more in game, but I think we had allready talk a lot about it. It wasn't playable for us and we just wanted to try another host.

[01:16] <@PI|ZexTar> WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?
[01:16] <@PI|ZexTar> U LEAVE THE GAME
[01:16] <@PI|ZexTar> like that

[01:16] <+DIV|Popo> CANT WE CHOOSE OTHER HOST?
[01:16] <@PI|ZexTar> YOU CANT
[01:16] <@PI|ZexTar> CHOOSE OTHER HOST
[01:16] <+DIV|Popo> why?
[01:16] <+DIV|Popo> show me the rule
[01:16] <+DIV|Popo> i want see it

[01:16] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> we said we cant plzy
[01:16] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> on this host

[01:17] <@PI|ZexTar> .report 480 sentinel
[01:17] * @P2-BOT Game DPCM480: Result confirmed and submitted; The sentinel have won
[01:17] * @P2-BOT Experience change: Flow|Souljah^RU[+37] walda-[+38] PI|ZexTar^[+38] Flow|Gorgrim^RU[+37] Morbix[+36] GoJiRa[-43] Ph0eNiiX[-34] DIVApo[-36] DIVGOBLIN[-40] DIV|Popo[-32]

[01:17] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> STOP IT
[01:17] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> STOP ABUSES
[01:17] <@PI|ZexTar> abuse
[01:17] <@PI|ZexTar> ?
[01:17] <@PI|ZexTar> wheres the abuse
[01:17] <@PI|ZexTar> u left
[01:17] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> yes it is
[01:17] <@PI|ZexTar> instant

Don't you think we allready said that this host wasn't good for us and we want to try another ?

[01:17] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> you sdont wana play
[01:18] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> JUST JOIN THE GAME and try this host

[01:19] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> go result draw or play
[01:19] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> but its not a win for u
[01:19] <@PI|ZexTar> YOU DECIDE TO LEAVE
[01:19] <@PI|ZexTar> CAUSE U LAG
[01:19] <@PI|ZexTar> AND I CAN SEE
[01:19] <@PI|ZexTar> IN THE BOT
[01:19] <@PI|ZexTar> THAT U DIDNT ALG

[01:20] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> WE all got spikes

[01:21] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> we said you we cant play this host
[01:21] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> before the game start

[01:21] <@PI|ZexTar> whatever you LAG or not
[01:22] <@PI|ZexTar> You shouldnt just leave
[01:22] <@PI|ZexTar> like that

So what is the problem of leaving to try another host ?

[01:22] <+DIV|Popo> why cant u just try
[01:22] <+DIV|Popo> i dont get it

[01:24] <@PI|ZexTar> if you can host with hostbot its mandatory
[01:25] <+DIV|Popo> where it is write?[01:25] <+DIV|Popo> link it to me
[01:25] <+DIV|Popo> cant see any rules
[01:25] <+DIV|Popo> in dp forum

[01:26] <@Caterink> if u can use hostbot
[01:26] <@Caterink> it is mandatory
[01:26] <+DIV|Popo> can u link this too me?

Still no link coming...

[01:26] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> and if 5 players cant play on the host bot ?
[01:26] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> is it still MANDATORY
[01:26] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> ?

[01:27] <@Caterink> can you stop spam
[01:27] <@Caterink> i said something
[01:27] <@Caterink> if u can host
[01:27] <@Caterink> with hostbot
[01:27] <@Caterink> yes it is

[01:27] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> just notice taht it is stupid
[01:28] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> we just want to TRY other host

[01:29] <@Caterink> .ban Tribal`Ph0eNiiX flame
[01:29] * @P2-BOT User Ph0eNiiX has been banned.
[01:29] * P2-BOT sets mode: +b #Ph0eNiiX!*@
[01:29] * You were kicked by P2-BOT (You are banned (Expires: 18:29:34 21/12/09))
[01:29] * Attempting to rejoin channel #dota.pride.2
[01:29] * Rejoined channel #dota.pride.2
(auto rejoin)
[01:29] * P2-BOT sets mode: +v Tribal`Ph0eNiiX
[01:29] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> ....................
[01:29] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> ......................
[01:29] <@Caterink> .ban Tribal`Ph0eNiiX flame
[01:29] * @P2-BOT 03User Ph0eNiiX has been banned.
[01:29] * You were kicked by P2-BOT (You are banned (Expires: 18:29:53 21/12/09))
(auto rejoin)
[01:29] * Attempting to rejoin channel #dota.pride.2
[01:29] * Rejoined channel #dota.pride.2

[01:30] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> You're still abusing ?
[01:31] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> I'm not flaming
[01:31] <+Tribal`Ph0eNiiX> I just want logical answers

[01:31] * You were kicked by PI|ZexTar (Banned for flaming)
[01:31] * Attempting to rejoin channel #dota.pride.2
[01:31] * Unable to join channel (address is banned)
[01:32] * Unable to join channel (address is banned)
[01:35] * Unable to join channel (address is banned)

I've been banned because they don't want to discuss about the "new" rule, and about theirs decisions.

I'm asking for a result draw on this game + an unban for me.

Thanks you for your comprehension.

(I can give whole chatlog if you want + IRC chatlog)

[GoJiRa]

2:32 [All] Gorgrim (Slardar): ...
2:32 [All] PI|ZexTar (Rhasta): .result sentinel
2:32 [All] JesuS_QuintanA (Enchantress): your pi host
2:32 [All] DIV.Popo (Dwarven): agree
2:32 [All] PI|ZexTar (Rhasta): np
2:32 [All] Tribal.Ph0eNiiX (Nevermore): unplayabler
2:32 [All] JesuS_QuintanA (Enchantress): sux
2:32 [All] JesuS_QuintanA (Enchantress): dude
2:32 [All] PI|ZexTar (Rhasta): .result sentinel
2:32 [All] PI|ZexTar (Rhasta): Np
2:32 [All] GoJiRa) (Gorgon): why dont u simply host manually ?
2:32 [All] Tribal.Ph0eNiiX (Nevermore): go other host
2:32 [All] GoJiRa) (Gorgon): we let u host
2:32 [All] PI|ZexTar (Rhasta): no
2:32 [All] walda| (Slithice): last time it was same host ?
2:32 [All] JesuS_QuintanA (Enchantress): go normal host
2:32 [All] PI|ZexTar (Rhasta): DUDE
2:32 [All] PI|ZexTar (Rhasta): ITS NOT THE BOT
2:32 [All] Tribal.Ph0eNiiX (Nevermore): normal host
2:32 [All] GoJiRa) (Gorgon): just not with the hostbot
2:32 [All] walda| (Slithice): mb cuz we outlaned u ? xD
2:32 [All] morbix (Dazzle): i can host
2:32 [All] PI|ZexTar (Rhasta): .result sentinel
2:32 [All] Tribal.Ph0eNiiX (Nevermore): ...
2:32 [All] DIV.GOBLIN (Tidehunter): lol purple
2:32 [All] DIV.Popo (Dwarven): go host morbix


This chatlog is from the replay that Phoenix added.


As you can see, we tried to discuss another host, even from their team so they can't say "they are trying to host themselves so they dont get delay". You refused any discussion, sorry but you are wrong Zextar. Nevertheless, your mates were all trying to solve the problem by proposing themselves as host.

Zextar told me on vent : "i could result draw but you just left and didn't try to discuss". As you can see mate, we tried to discuss but you didn't ...

It's a ladder, a league. It's too easy trying to win points like that. And I think that your sponsors and the donaters (thx to them besides) won't really apreciate this acting...

[Apo]

I ve also been banned from dota.pride.2 chan because of flaming ( ??????? )
the only thing i have said is that PokerIdol-Hostbot was bad because it was spiky( sorry for saying that i didnt know it means flame).

I also ask for unban, my Q-Auth : DIVApo

Best regards.

[GoJiRa]

I took an initiative and checked the DP2 rules 10 times.

http://www.mymgn.com/board/showthread.php?t=16239

There isn't any point that says "Hostbot is mandatory". We didn't have a clue about this. If you want it to be mandatory, add it in the rules, don't create rules like that to result sentinel.

Honestly, we are absolutely in right. We behaved correctly and we have a reputation as mannered and skilled players on DP2. This is a bit of abuse..

[PeLaTis]

now first of all rules are here : http://www.mymgn.com/board/showthread.php?t=17917

and as for the admin behave i will do something about it

rules about host bot mandatory is not written but as we admins says if there is someone with the power to host in a host bot then and only then all need to join the bot if not normal host will be fine. those are little issue but if you think such a rule need to be written i can add it so there is no more problems about this kind of situation.

regards The Admin Team