Kira_2010
03-03-2011, 10:56 AM
In reply to Sir Rogers on Frag Artists post entiltes 'new rules:
Actually, High Level Rooms sounds like a good idea. I'm sure this will help pull more players from garena over to RGC as well as give players the opportunity to play higher skilled games without having to apply for leagues which they may not be ready for. Despite the fact you don't solve the problems of DC and leavers I am sure there is a high enough correlation between experience in games played and likely they are to leave a game and d/c (especially assuming you need a point threshold in which to enter the room, since these deduct losses and dcs ---> making it an even better system of judging players).
However I don't know if RGC has a big enough pool of players with enough experience to make a HLR appropriate, not to mention the admin involved to create such a room, decide on point thresholds and then control bans and crap.
Generally in public though noobs have to be tolerated and the best way to cope is to laugh it off or make a couple of friends and stomp lol then you know you won't be without a courier frag xD Generally i like the ban system on here, I think it is much fairer than the garena hlr system of banning for months on end for a leave. Much more proportionate here.
Also, since we are on the topic, why doesn't the sticky on the forum state anything about how ban times are decided based on the seriousness of the offence and what time it occurs in the game. I think the punishments need to be clearly displayed for the public not just to the admins themselves (I don't know if they can be found elsewhere on the site but it would make sense to have it here too). The other thing that confuses me is the warnings rule. By what amount are timebans increased after certain amounts of warnings? How many warnings until your final warning? Do warnings reset after a certain time period if you stop offending for while ( if they don't I think they definately should since if u r on your final warning for leaving as an example, it doesn't seem fair if you then stop leaving until a month or two later and then you are banned for a month)? More clarity on the issue would help a lot to ensure public players ( and maybe others in leagues) are aware of punishments and to know that they are not simply being banned by however much the admin feels like at the time.
In addition to all of this, I think admins who I assume have to go through replay after replay should be given a system more similar to that of garena by using screen shots for leavers instead of replays, provided the screenshot shows the time of leave. However replays must also be attatched for the purposes of veryifying that a genuine problem occured that can be forgiven if they ask for an unban request. That way leavers can be banned based on leave time on screen shot and the replay only needs to be checked if that player has a genuine excuse. Despite the likely increase in unban requests I think that overall this would save a lot of admin work. But obviously I don't know if the current system is used for credibility purposes on making sure the party is guilty.
The pultimate issue I have at the moment is the fact that if all opponents leave without !ff, you must continue the game to destroy the throne in order to get points. RGC needs to incorporate a system that automatically allocates the points to the players left and close the game so players don't have to bore themselves watching the throne fall for the millionth time without any opponents to rampage on :D
The last thing to add is a minor detail which is that I think in the sticky for ban requests etc. it would be helpful to some new players to simply have links they can use so that they can attach replays for bans onto the websites and post the links in their ban requests.
Thanks for your time, I hope this all makes sense
Actually, High Level Rooms sounds like a good idea. I'm sure this will help pull more players from garena over to RGC as well as give players the opportunity to play higher skilled games without having to apply for leagues which they may not be ready for. Despite the fact you don't solve the problems of DC and leavers I am sure there is a high enough correlation between experience in games played and likely they are to leave a game and d/c (especially assuming you need a point threshold in which to enter the room, since these deduct losses and dcs ---> making it an even better system of judging players).
However I don't know if RGC has a big enough pool of players with enough experience to make a HLR appropriate, not to mention the admin involved to create such a room, decide on point thresholds and then control bans and crap.
Generally in public though noobs have to be tolerated and the best way to cope is to laugh it off or make a couple of friends and stomp lol then you know you won't be without a courier frag xD Generally i like the ban system on here, I think it is much fairer than the garena hlr system of banning for months on end for a leave. Much more proportionate here.
Also, since we are on the topic, why doesn't the sticky on the forum state anything about how ban times are decided based on the seriousness of the offence and what time it occurs in the game. I think the punishments need to be clearly displayed for the public not just to the admins themselves (I don't know if they can be found elsewhere on the site but it would make sense to have it here too). The other thing that confuses me is the warnings rule. By what amount are timebans increased after certain amounts of warnings? How many warnings until your final warning? Do warnings reset after a certain time period if you stop offending for while ( if they don't I think they definately should since if u r on your final warning for leaving as an example, it doesn't seem fair if you then stop leaving until a month or two later and then you are banned for a month)? More clarity on the issue would help a lot to ensure public players ( and maybe others in leagues) are aware of punishments and to know that they are not simply being banned by however much the admin feels like at the time.
In addition to all of this, I think admins who I assume have to go through replay after replay should be given a system more similar to that of garena by using screen shots for leavers instead of replays, provided the screenshot shows the time of leave. However replays must also be attatched for the purposes of veryifying that a genuine problem occured that can be forgiven if they ask for an unban request. That way leavers can be banned based on leave time on screen shot and the replay only needs to be checked if that player has a genuine excuse. Despite the likely increase in unban requests I think that overall this would save a lot of admin work. But obviously I don't know if the current system is used for credibility purposes on making sure the party is guilty.
The pultimate issue I have at the moment is the fact that if all opponents leave without !ff, you must continue the game to destroy the throne in order to get points. RGC needs to incorporate a system that automatically allocates the points to the players left and close the game so players don't have to bore themselves watching the throne fall for the millionth time without any opponents to rampage on :D
The last thing to add is a minor detail which is that I think in the sticky for ban requests etc. it would be helpful to some new players to simply have links they can use so that they can attach replays for bans onto the websites and post the links in their ban requests.
Thanks for your time, I hope this all makes sense